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BARRY NGUYEN

Episode 4 · 16 April 2026 · 16 min

The niche clinic that owns its niche

Winnie Wu · The Business of Allied Health

About this episode

In this episode of the Business of Allied Health series, Barry sits down with Winnie Wu, founder of the Movement Laboratory and Papaya Clinic in Sydney. As one of Australia's most respected voices in women's health, Winnie shares her journey from starting as a solo practitioner to scaling multidisciplinary, integrative clinics that offer physiotherapy, Pilates, natural therapies, and Chinese medicine.

Tune in as Winnie discusses the realities of the startup grind—from bootstrapping her first clinic and building her own reception desk with IKEA parts, to the critical role of engaging a business coach from day one. She also reveals the key metrics she tracks, why gross profit should sit at 55%, and shares an unpopular lesson: why a founder's biggest bottleneck to growth is often their leadership skills, not their clinical expertise.

Timestamps:

00:05 - Introduction to Winnie Wu, Movement Laboratory, and Papaya Clinic

01:31 - The founder journey: From Pilates instructor to solo practitioner and scaling to a group practice

04:06 - The startup grind: Being a one-woman show, bootstrap funding, and building IKEA desks

06:40 - Integrative care: Blending physiotherapy, natural therapies, and Chinese medicine

10:16 - Business coaching: Why having a mentor from day one is critical for sustainable growth

12:35 - The number one metric: Why Gross Profit needs to be sitting at 55%

13:35 - Unpopular lesson: Why clinic founders aren't always the best clinicians and the importance of leadership skills

16:08 - Where to find Winnie Wu and her coaching programmes

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